the 25 to 40s new expats coming to the Philippines

There seems to be an upward trend of younger expats coming to the Philippines to live. Not sure if its the current economic situation driving it or it could be Western civilisation where people are quite happy to drop out of the sickening consumer lifestyle that encapsulates the West. Although be warned i have seen some very rich young Chinese and Filipino’s embracing the culture i hate the worse case i remember is a twenty something chinese girl at Hong Kong airport wearing designer Burberry head to toe looked more like a walking rug proves you can’t buy class though. Anyway back on topic its also the fact people are very more like minded in the 25 something age group and often more positive than our retiree counterparts don’t get me wrong if i was retired i wouldn’t be looking to do business here either because that’s the whole point of retiring to be retired! at the same time i wouldn’t get involved in what other people are doing unless its a positive help to their ventures. Although i do give advice on deaf ears a lot of the time as i tell the people involved its advice i don’t care if you take it or not but if it goes wrong and i hadn’t warned you about something wouldn’t sit well with me. So i tell them they ignore it and sometimes it goes wrong either way the secret of doing business here is to dig in deep and just keep chipping away at it. As most of the guys in the 25 – 40s are here for business they are looking to setup a new life here. A lot of things will go wrong and eventually some will go right. The point is to look at the positives and build on them it doesn’t take a lot to build enough to live over here so getting a few right is pretty much got the rent paid and food on the table.

A lot of the people i have met especially in the 25 – 35 bracket are working online not something i advise making a living on unless you are already doing it where you are. Reason being its not easy and it does take time. Monetary exchange rate fluctuations can also send damaging ripples into your business depending what your doing (e.g. selling goods out of China online and dealing with the dropped UK rate). How i have managed to work it to feather the nest was to setup several small ventures initially and let them develop which have become our bread and butter. I am now concentrating on the larger scale operations which is why i am constantly banging my head on the wall as just when you think everything is great something goes wrong and your back to square one. That is the worst part of things not fully under your control and the reason if your coming here your first ventures should be tightly controlled and not something people can interfere with.

So if you are in the 25 – 40s bracket please leave a post just so we can see how many of us are really out there. One thing for sure i hope more come soon so we can look to form up some sports teams. As well as doing more interesting trips around the Philippines.

21 comments for “the 25 to 40s new expats coming to the Philippines

  1. Tropicalpenpals
    June 12, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    Hi John,
    quick on the post..lol how is Boracay? will have to come and see you soon.

  2. John Hall
    June 12, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    I am one of them Matt. Came here to cebu when I was 23 years old and stayed here since. I am 25 now. 😛

    John

  3. Jason Thompson
    June 12, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    I am not one of them Matt. But I'd like to be. I'm 31 and planning to be there by 35 so I would still be “in the range” of this particular demographic. I'll have to sweat it out in the desert for a few more years yet though.

    Jason

    • John Hall
      June 13, 2010 at 2:56 am

      Desert. Are you in California? Try to do one vacation a year here at least. Its a huge culture shock. My girlfriend gives me advice all the time and if I didn’t listen I would probroly of got my ass whooped along time ago or worse lol. For sure find yourself a pen pal on something like dateinasia.com or something before you get here meet up and let her show you the ropes the first time here.

  4. Tropicalpenpals
    June 13, 2010 at 1:22 am

    Hi Jason,
    glad to have you aboard 🙂 truth be known though doing another 4 years in the desert is more likely to give you a better standing when you do move as you would have managed to accumulate a better wealth for getting started here. Too many people arrive with a budget to small to get things moving and end up returning to home countries within 6 months. At the same time its all about planning ahead culturally most people don't do it here and its something to Foreigners advantage. E.g. the area i live in i want to buy up several of the lots and develop into a maybe 30 apartments including pool facility. At the same time it will also help the local community as it will offer the opportunity of more jobs directly and indirectly. Its surprising how much impact 30 people would have in an area with a monthly income of around P50,000+ each P1.5m a month with at least P700,000 of that being spent locally every month its a cash injection that is badly needed and can only go to not only improve things here but build closer relations with the general populous as to see the benefits of Expats in the area. Look forward to seeing you on your next trip here 🙂

  5. Tropicalpenpals
    June 13, 2010 at 3:04 am

    haha.. generally though there aren't many people like you here Kento as most are at least 25 unless they are living here with their parents. Only person I think we have met younger than you was Patrick the french guy at the swimming pool and I know his father is here..(not sure mother wise as ive never heard anyone mention her).

  6. Tropicalpenpals
    June 13, 2010 at 3:06 am

    up around the same time but messing around on the internet.. would love to live nearer the beach although might have to get a beach house for weekends etc. in the distant future so it keeps the edge on something to look forward to 😉 sounds like youve found your new home mind!

  7. June 13, 2010 at 2:53 am

    I won't be 25 for another 38 months yet.

  8. John Hall
    June 13, 2010 at 2:54 am

    Boracays is as good as it gets man. Woke up and went for a long distance swim around 630 to 715. I love it bro! The water is like a bathtub that I don't have installed in my house hahaha.

  9. Jason Thompson
    June 13, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    All good points. For sure on my next trip (if I make it to Cebu) we should meet up.

    Jason

  10. Tropicalpenpals
    June 14, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Cheapest way to do it is interconnect with people internationally who can help you find things in their location. There are always places that are cheap if you know where to look. Also you need to plan your route first so you can get an idea of locations etc. But also a major saver would be to VISIT major cities but avoid staying too long as they get expensive in Paris and London for example.

  11. Tropicalpenpals
    June 14, 2010 at 11:21 am

    I forgot to ask you what part of the Philippines is your wife from?

  12. John Hall
    June 14, 2010 at 8:34 am

    Hey Matt. I am going to do a Tour of Europe next year bro. What is the cheapest way to do it without hostels. I will have a campanion

  13. John Hall
    June 14, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Dude I am planning so many trips but I dont know what to do first. I am thinking of buying a camper a touring across the whole us or Australia or. Visiting the Central and south america while I am visiting my parents dude life has so many choices.

  14. Tropicalpenpals
    June 15, 2010 at 6:04 am

    I would concentrate on one and if your taking your girlfriend really need to look at visa issues first and go with the country with the least hassles as the travelling will do her a favour for next countries. I wouldn't mind doing India and Latin America although would like to do round the philippines by yacht..

    I think you need to sift your list down into years then you can fix on which to do first..

  15. Enrico
    October 27, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    I prefer buying quality food than designer clothes. That’s how fucked up some people are

    • Tropicalpenpals
      October 28, 2010 at 5:51 am

      thats my point so many people will say they “have no money” but in truth they have no idea how to live.. served up with a lunch of consumerism of nice new shoes the same as the last pair they have except its this years design.. proof is in the fact we all reside here in the sun while they max out their debt in other countries.

  16. Enrico
    October 27, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    I’m 21 european living in Cebu

  17. Enrico
    October 27, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    And i came here all alone. And i’m surprised when i meet someone of my own age in the Philippines, more likely Boracay or Panglao but definately not Cebu

  18. Matt
    January 4, 2011 at 5:27 am

    I’m in this age bracket Matt, and arrived 6 months ago. The primary reasons for the relocation was getting the wife closer to family & reduced living cost. My business is APAC specific & to date i have not earned one Peso in the Phils, I will change this in 2011.
    BTW i really appreciate your sustainability efforts…excellent blog!
    Matt

    • Tropicalpenpals
      January 4, 2011 at 7:51 am

      The thing is the Philippines market is open if you know how to manipulate it and a lot of it is about sustainability. Many say this doesn’t make a big profit and neither does this, this and this.. but group them together your monthly expenses are taken care of “part-time” which allows progress in other directions.. 2010 was a hard year as things developed at a slower pace than expected, doesn’t mean things failed it just means I have been forced to move at the Philippines progress rate. Your doing the right thing if you can make the majority of your money offshore as it gives you the safety net many dont even think of.

      Thanks for the feedback and appreciate it 🙂